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Monjoronson - Q&A - God's Pre-Knowledge - Womb Death & Manson World Potentials - Dec 09, 2008, Audio Session #30

Subject: Monjoronson.com Session #30
Teacher: Monjoronson
T/R: Henry Zeringue
Moderator: Philip
December 09, 2008

Questions Answered This Session:

1 - How does God' Use His Pre-Knowledge?
2 - Does God perceive me as only finished from the beginning?
3 -  Is the Holy Spirit a person or a circuit?
4 - What Is the Potential for human cloning?
5 -  Does the womb death of a child have a mansonia repercussion?

Prayer: Divine Parents, Michael and Nebadonia, bring us into your circle of  love. Bring us into the circle of spiritual light this evening. Guide us in  the wisdom to understand spiritual concepts as they pertain to human  consciousness. In human consciousness may we be connected to a greater  receptivity. This evening we ask for Monjoronson to join us and other  celestial personalities who chance to be in this immediate circle.

Monjoronson: Greetings this evening, it is I Monjoronson. During this season  on Urantia of the celebration of peace, may the spirit within man begin to  reveal a greater dimension of himself. We are ready for the questions this  evening.

1 - How does God' Use His Pre-Knowledge?

Question #1: Good evening Monjoronson, thank you for being here. Our first  question concerns the subject of God's pre-knowledge. The questioner states  that it is written in the Urantia book that God cannot experientially know  what He has never personally experienced. God's pre-knowledge is  existential. What does this statement mean? Does God know what I am going to  do before I do it and if He does, how does He do that?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. When it is spoken of the Father  that He has pre-knowledge, understand that in the primary aspects and  divisions of the Father there is the unqualified part, the Unqualified  Absolute and the qualified part, the Qualified Absolute. Both of these  aspects of the Father encompass tremendously different perspectives. The  Unqualified Absolute prepares the Thought Adjusters originating in Paradise;  having no experience and knowledge except they contain the divine essence of  the Father.

The Adjusters which come to indwell man have been prepared in your sense of  understanding to work within the minds of men, yet the Universal Father  knows and understands everything. On a certain level of existence, creation  evolved because of the Father's complete understanding of reality for that  dimension. When the Father created Paradise, the Father created an  environment capable of housing the grand universe of beings which could be  produced in the grand universe’s age.
When the Father created the grand universe the Father sent His sons and  daughters out to procreate and co-create universes and myriads of beings  attached to the administration of those universes, creating finally the  evolutionary worlds where animal origin evolutionary beings become realized.  In the great wisdom of the Father, He sends Adjusters, Unqualified Absolute  particles of Himself to inhabit these evolutionary animal origin beings and  prepares a grand universe education to qualify the co-creation of a new  being created by the fragments indwelling these humans.

This great wisdom attenuates into a seventh stage being of supreme nature,  qualifying first hand the experiences of a far flung universe, qualifying  these experiences every step of the way back home to Paradise. In this way  the Father's pre-knowledge accounts for His great wisdom and His  understanding. Therefore it is not necessary that the Father which is  qualified, understand the unqualified parts until they have been qualified  with a genuine life experience beginning on a human level and ascending to a  spiritual sonship status whereby man and God become pure spirit. This new  being becomes absorbed into the bosom of Paradise. Thank you for this  question.

2 - Does God perceive me as only finished from the beginning?

Question #2: Thank you Monjoronson. This same individual asks if God knows me or us as the complete finished real personality, then the purpose of my  or our life is to experientially live out all the many potential  possibilities of this complete self that God sees as me. So in that, since  God does not have need to have a pre-knowledge of the detailed twists and  turns of my life, He sees only the finished me from the beginning. I would  really appreciate it if you could offer more insight into this mystery.

Monjoronson: Thank you again. As has been stated, the personal qualified  aspect of the Father creates a complete universe with tremendously few  variables in terms of organization. One of the purposes in creating the  universes of time and space and their particular relationships to man is  such that man and God can personally experience the minute and finite  details of all of the vast experiences which a creature of time and space  must experience before reaching Paradise.

In this way the Father creates a new expression of Himself, the Supreme. The  Supreme becomes a qualified and bonafide expression of Deity when all of the  Thought Adjusters sent out to indwell the mortals of time and space have all returned to Paradise with their creatures of habitation. The universe is  neither linear or polarized.  God is not black and white, and He cannot be  understood just from one level or one aspect. God is a complex concept  involving Deity, primal Deity, that must be understood in its myriad  relationships with other aspects of Deity to form these core bonds which . . . [attend] the manifestation of realities both in Paradise-Havona, and the  universes of time and space, those that are inhabited and those universes that are, as of yet,  uninhabited.

The problem for the human is to see . . . the indwelling aspect of Deity as a challenge to become responsible and understand what it is to bring this concept [i.e., sonship] into a reality as the actual grasping [recognition] of the Father's  presence . . . [as the] reality of sonship. These concepts [indwelling and sonship], when brought to the  level of awareness within the human psyche, reveal tremendous possibilities for God to manifest an experience within the realm of the human psyche and the human’s life.

Life is designed for all humans to show forth the divine in human nature. [This is] the ideal [reflection of God in] the evolved part of man’s life and man’s duty.    In understanding  God's pre-knowledge, understand that God's pre-knowledge accomplishes everything [known]. [The known] . . . is conditioned because it is in the qualified aspect of the mind of God. The unqualified part is the  substance of God, not the mind of the Universal Father.

The mind of the Universal Father exists in the grand personality of the  First Source and Center, the one true God of all creation. Understand that  it is the wisdom of the Father which allows for the intermingling of the  unqualified part of Himself with the qualified aspects of His universe, the  plan whereby man and God become partners.

The Sons and Daughters of Father have created within the animal kingdom, a sapient species to grow up on a planet to become recipients of these  Unqualified Absolutes of the Father.  These fragment [Thought] Adjusters join in a creative effort . . . to find a way back to  Paradise. [Their co-creative efforts] . . . qualify them, upon their return to Paradise, to exist as an aspect of God that brings in new knowledge.

It is also true that it can be argued that the Universal Father has a  working knowledge of the possibility of a particular human life yet the  knowledge is not such that it passes judgement on such a human life until  that human life has been revealed of its divine nature. God has a working  knowledge and understanding of all which takes part in His great and grand  universe. The action of the Supreme Being; the collaboration of the Creator  and the created, is the great experiment of this universe age.

It is why the universes were created, that God could share a part of Himself  with what has been created, in this sense meaning human life. For a human it  would be a tremendously challenging perspective to view the universe in its  complexity as a system set up specifically to entertain the relationship  between animal origin beings and an aspect of the Divine Father in a complex  dance of life, a relationship based on eternal trust; that the road is paved  all the way to Paradise just for the asking.

Again in viewing this concept of the universe it is important to view the  wisdom of the First Source and Center in accommodating this, the greatest  variable created in the universe. The potential of man and God to become one  is therefore the faith and trust and love of the Divine Father which places  such a delicate aspect of Himself in jeopardy in entrusting to the  uninitiated a treasure of divine magnitude within the minds of a human  savage.

It could never be argued that God is not just, or not merciful, for the  Father is also just and merciful. I know in answering this request I'm  dealing with large concepts. In reference to these concepts, again I would  like to shed light on the importance of the responsibility of man to begin  to comprehend the tremendous potential of the divine aspect which indwells  the humans of Urantia. May you be blessed in your journey,  thank you.

3 -  Is the Holy Spirit a person or a circuit?

Question #3: Thank you Monjoronson, we have another questioner. He sends his  greetings warm and sincere and asks if the Holy Spirit a person or simply a  circuit?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. In answering this question it is  important to bring the questioner into an awareness of the Divine Mother,  the other half of the divine partnership which created the Universe of  Nebadon of which your world is a planet in. The Holy Spirit is the human  name given to the circuitry of the Universe Mother Spirit; her energy is the  Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Truth is the spirit of Michael fueled with the  circuitry of the Mother Spirit which is the Holy Spirit.

On a human level all spirit acts as one. The Holy Spirit comes to a human  mind as the divine gift; the divine gift bringing both acknowledgment and  acceptance. Whatever name is given to this universe energy, it is part of  the spiritual circuit which is based in the personality of the Universe  Mother Spirit, Nebadonia. So in answer to your question, the Holy Spirit is  both a personality, that of the Mother Spirit and the energy of her  circuitry. Thank you for this question.

4 - What Is the Potential for human cloning?

Question #4: Thank you, this person asks another question. Has human cloning  been perfected, is it being implemented and is it being kept a secret by  those who do make use of it? If really some individuals are presently being  cloned, what is the purpose and what is the Father in heaven doing about  such activities?

Monjoronson:  There is a part of your question that I can answer, the part  about what the Universal Father is doing about human activities on Urantia.  The answer to that is, the Universe Father is not interfering in what humans  pursue. The reason this is so is because the Universal Father has sent  pre-personal aspects of Himself to indwell man so that God knows firsthand  what mankind is doing.

Mankind will always attempt to be as creative as the Universal Father, this  is part of the aspect of indwelling man. What man does with his creativity,  man also experiences as a consequence. God allows man to experience the  consequences of his or her own actions. The Father does not interfere in a  social way, the Father only interferes in a personal way, within a humans'  mind. What is challenging during these times is to perceive the result of  mankind having been allowed to go astray. When mankind begins to discover  the greater secrets of himself will he have a nature which can insure self  perpetuation, that he can bring the ideals of living to the greater  brotherhood of men.

As long as mankind continues to struggle in the human and divine conflict  will man continue to experience the results of that conflict. When man  begins to synchronize his actions with the divine will which indwells him,  will mankind begin to experience the benefits of a greater aspect of  sonship, the true aspects of brotherhood. What you refer to is the ongoing  concern of a spiritual universe. How long will it take the humans of Urantia  to wake up and see that they are in a cage and that if they look up they  will see a whole universe watching them, waiting to help them, treating them  with love and concern and affection?

God has purposely kept the establishment of human life quite simple on  Urantia because from ages and ages man must evolve and become transformed  through this internal conflict between man and God, between what is right  and what is wrong. What may be right for one may be wrong for many. Man has  reached a sociological development where the many things going on are  having such varied effects which mankind cannot control.  Because mankind  has not been wise in the use of the resource that he has been given, he must  reap the results of an inadequate resource.

Now, your earth is challenged to accept the consequences of default and if  you think you live in perplexing times, wait another one hundred years.  Thank you for this question.

5 -  Does the womb death of a child have a mansonia repercussion?

Question #5: Thank you for your response Monjoronson. We have one more  question tonight. This same questioner refers back to some prior  transmissions on the subject. He asks if a child dies in its mothers womb  say at six months of pregnancy, would it continue its life in the nursery  worlds in heaven or mansonia? If yes, by what technique?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. What you ask has a great ramification in the spiritual universe. The reference is to the amount of  spiritual activity around two people getting together and procreating a new being whether consciously or not. The intention of a being is enough to  create the being. The development of a being in the womb of a human prior to birth is a process which goes through many transformations of life to  produce a being ready to face the world outside the womb.

When perchance one of these beings does not make it to the final stage of  birth, these beings are not necessarily personalized on the next worlds as  of yet. Upon the attendance of the parents to these mansion worlds, and it be their genuine request, then procedures can take place which insure the  re-personalization of this child as a baby which gets indwelt with a Thought  Adjuster at some point.

This has to be the genuine request of the child's parents. Once life is  begun, whether it is life of a planet or life of a human, in the bigger  picture this life is allowed to continue once it is begun. It is understood,  the confusion of different stages of termination of human life on Urantia.  Rest assured that nothing worthy is lost and the creation of life is one of  the greatest of human gifts. It is much treasured in a spiritual sense for  it insures that the divine experiment will continue.

I thank you for this question, until a time that there are further  questions, thank you this evening.
 
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