Sondjah; Monjoronson; - Progress Report & Q&A Session - Monjoronsons Name - Scripts 24 & 25 - Jul 7, Jul 14, 2008 - Evergreen, CO

Topics:

1. Progress Report
2. Fulfilling Intentions

TR: Daniel Raphael

July 7, 2008

SONDJAH: This is Sondjah. It is good to be with you, thank you for being here. Thank you for contributing to this effort. We have been listening in to your discussions before this presentation, and we are delighted to hear that you have risen to a new level of performance in your group. I mentioned that your group has deferred to one another to provide services to the group, and now it is time for you, to assume some of those responsibilities, as was suggested by one of the members. These are assumed by your willingness, by the contributions you have made already. You have demonstrated your capacity and capability, your commitment and your special talents that contribute to the group and to these sessions. We appreciate that you are being active in the Team, for it makes your group and these sessions very productive, as what is provided through these transmissions, recordings, transcripts, and the journal are very important for those who come later. They will piece together those documents, to figure out what occurred during the sessions.

You made great progress last week by succinctly stating the several beliefs within the "Kids can do anything" web site material. You identified some its underlying beliefs, and tonight, we wish you to take up where you left off last week, so you can continue. I know that my discussion with you was brief, though this is my purpose. My function to participate in the group is to give you an appraisal of your performance, direct you where you have been absent, or where you need to fill an absence, and to move ahead, to encourage you to progress.

I am not Monjoronson, as you know. My function is far, far different from his, and my function is far removed from the realm of his executive capacities, so I have not too much to share with you concerning the larger events of his programs. You must come to consensus to invite him to return to your group to answer your questions. He is eager to do so, but you must show an organized willingness to approach him and then have the questions ready at hand. This is not too much to expect, is it? (No.) Thank you.

With that I would ask you, do you have any questions at this time that are germane to the Co-Creative Design Team process that we have been engaging?

Michael: We have come to experience that part of what is going on with this group and its functioning, is that we are attracting new people into the group, almost by accident—or I would say by intentions—and it has been pointed out by you that this is more in line with us determining those who discover, understand, by way of people and resources. Is it the case that I hear that and understand that correctly, and is there any more elaboration on that in terms of how we should go about that that you would like to offer?

SONDJAH: You are correct in assuming and acknowledging that you are "finders:" You are finders of material, and you are finders of those who can contribute to our Team. Your group, this team, is actually functioning on a far higher level of performance than you realize. In many ways, you are operating in an executive capacity as "The" Co-Creative Design Team of the world. You are bringing those individuals and those resources that are important to the development of the designs for a sustainable civilization and society.

You have perhaps thought of yourselves as ordinary individuals, living in this rural, mountainous community, and this is true to an extent, but you have engaged a process at a level that has not existed before. Therefore you are setting a course for the development of co-creative design teams around the world, as they come into existence. You are trailblazers, you are pathfinders, you are scouts into the wilderness of consciousness of sustainability. Your capacity as well is to remain integral – to maintain integrity in your consciousness for the duties and chores that you have for being here. Your participation is an act of integrity of consciousness to find the way, and so you are finding the way. We have enough people of consciousness-energy, integrity of consciousness, for this work that the sources for new information and new individuals are coming to you unexpectedly and in almost miraculous ways, almost.

You can assist this process greatly by acknowledging what is occurring, by giving appreciation for what is occurring. You may not realize it, but you are attracting them as much as we are in guiding them to you. Do you understand that? (Yes.) You are a north pole, we are a south pole, and there is this object, this person, this resource, which comes to you. And so, through this loose metaphor, you are attracting individuals and resources, which are so important to the design of a sustainable civilization. You have begun with relationships in earnest and you dedicated many weeks to this, and it was very fruitful, though very frightening for some, and disappointing to others.

You have then engaged the process of trying to design a sustainable educational system or process, or sustainable education of whatever form, and this is indeed, miraculous. Not by coincidence, but by design—and understand the word "design"—you have a design in the purposes and function of this team, which imprints upon your surroundings, and so you are attracting those pieces of the puzzle that fit where you have a need. You have thought so long about having education for children, and how to raise children, where do we start? We start with the procreative couple, who delivers a newborn child, and then teaches this child how to be a sustainable individual, a major portion of which is how to teach this child to be happy, and "Voila!" "Eureka!" You have attracted an individual who has been working on this very material for years. He has dedicated his life to it, is teaching his own children, and is now validating this in several school districts in this nation and several other nations, simultaneously. So yes, congratulations on your "finding." [Speaking of Patrick McMillan.]

I would be willing to entertain an extraneous or curiosity question, which is within my capacity to answer, if you have any. (Pause.) With that, let us close and begin your team session, where you will discuss your beliefs and work sideways into values, expectations and criteria, if you would, please. Are you ready to engage this now? (Yes.) Thank you. Good night, and I will rejoin you verbally, in presence with you next week, though I will be with you all during the week as I usually am. Thank you.

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SONDJAH: This is Sondjah. I am glad to be back with you once more and to be in the verbally present state, where you can ask questions. Are there questions at this time?

Michael: Sondjah, can you give us some insight into how we might know when our work on a particular effort is be complete, or at a place when we might be directed to go to another project?

SONDJAH: Most certainly, I would be glad to answer that. First, it begins with your intention. You must re-examine your intention for the project, and I assume that you are now speaking about sustainable education? (Yes.) Then examine your intentions, yours personally and as for the group, because this will tell you when you are through. When your intentions are fulfilled, then you may move on and feel comfortable with doing so.

If your intention was to design a sustainable education environment, as you have done here for the last few weeks and tonight, then you have surely almost, accomplished what you set out to do, though the documentation is certainly most brief. You could use the word "scarce" as well. However if you were thinking your intention was to encompass a higher, elementary classroom situation, or a secondary educational system, or an academic, collegiate system, then your intentions are not complete. You must determine this in your time tonight, or soon, to decide how you want to proceed. We are here to assist you to accomplish your intentions, because we know that you will be happy when you have completed them, and you will be eager to move on.

As guidance to you, I also ask you to estimate how you are working as a group, and whether are you satisfied with the results that you have achieved, or are you merely flitting about from topic to topic, satisfying your curiosity? You must look at this as well, I believe in my estimation. We will support you, assist you, facilitate you, and encourage you as long as you are engaged with your intentions. As the facilitator is necessary to keep you on track, so we too, strive to keep you on track to fulfill your intentions, though our facilitating is not as frequent as his. Is this clear? (Yes, thank you.) Are there other questions?

Student (Cayce?): Sondjah, when we were working on the relationships, where we were working in smaller groups and we were working with more focus, maybe, than trying to do everything with the whole group. What do you think? Should we stay as one, or should we consider what we want to accomplish for the night and then breaking down into small groups? What would be most productive?

SONDJAH: It would be most productive first to assess your intentions, and secondly, if you have not fulfilled your intentions, then you may wish to consider breaking into smaller groups. I would surely advise you not to break into groups smaller than three, please. You must have enough individuals to sustain these very small groups, without a facilitator or a TR present, so that your numbers must minimally be seven, for this larger group, in order to break into two groups of three. Thank you for your question. Last question, if there remain any?

I thank you for your time, your thoughtfulness, your earnest dedication. We are very pleased with the results of the Co-Creative Design Team, in terms of the happiness level of your group. This too, is a very fundamental feature of your productivity, as is a sense of satisfaction, a sense of well-being, accomplishment, self-fulfillment, and commitment to a larger cause than what you have during the day. We know that your sense of satisfaction in all these areas contributes to the productivity of all, and to the accomplishment of the team. We thank you so very much for being here and we appreciate your enthusiasm, your joy, and I might add as well—we see this very clearly—that you have a connection with Christ Michael and Nebadonia, the higher spirits of the realm as you do this work, for you are doing this with a personal interest and dedication of your own sense of achievement, accomplishment and growth, and participation in the larger universe. This is measurable to us; you have felt it and we have seen it. Good night.

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Topics:

Q & A:

1. Names used by Monjoronson
2. Meanings of names
3. Ascension and enlightenment
4. Sources of "The Urantia Book"
5. Was channeling used with "The Urantia Book?
6. Tools of discernment
7. "A Course in Miracles"
8. Anointment

TR: Daniel Raphael

July 14, 2008

SONDJAH: Good evening, this is Sondjah. It is good to be here with you; you are a small group tonight, but mighty and powerful and clear of thought. You have requested our leader, Monjoronson, to provide some answers to your questions and he has graciously accepted and is most encouraged to engage your questions for clarification and to engage new material, as you wish.

MONJORONSON: This is Monjoronson and I am pleased to be here with you. How may I be of service to you this evening?

Student: Monjoronson, I was wondering if you would clear up some information that you had given us several weeks ago, and if it’s alright, I’ll read for clarity what you said and then ask you to tell me where my problem with it is. (Certainly.) To quote from you, from the transcript that was sent out to all of us you said, "You call me Monjoronson, but my name is not Monjoronson. Many groups around the world call me by different names. I am the anticipated Anointed One, the Holy One sent by God. For you, this means Christ Michael, my Brother, who is the Creator of this Local Universe, and I am on a mission from Paradise as well, to uphold this work here and assist the mortals on this planet to rejoin the universe in peace and light and love."

So at one point, you said you were the Anointed One, the Holy One sent by God, and for me that would mean Christ Michael but then you referred to Christ Michael as your Brother. So, it sounds like you identified yourself as Christ Michael, but separated Christ Michael from who you are.

[Note: Several students from this group have only recently been exposed to "The Urantia Book," and are not yet familiar with its concepts.]

MONJORONSON: Let me clarify for you. Christ Michael is of the Michael Order of Creator Sons, and he is from Paradise, as I am from Paradise. Our Holy Father is the First Source and Center, the Creator of the [Grand] Universe, and we have engaged this [Local] Universe for its growth and development. I have been sent and volunteered to work with Christ Michael, who is my Brother. He is a God in your estimation. We are both Anointed. I am not the First Source and Center of the Universe that brought all that exists into existence. He is not the First Source and Center, but he is a Creator Son, who has manipulated the energies of this local area, so that it has now been transformed and created into a Local Universe of millions and millions of stars and planets. We are Brothers; we are both Anointed, as we come from the Creator. All who come from the Creator, who are sent forward to the material worlds, are anointed. We are on a mission; it is our work that we are doing here, that is anointed. We have the blessing of the First Source and Center, to be here and to engage this world, and to bring it into an era of light and life, through our efforts, co-creatively with you. Does this help, or are there other issues that need clarification?

Student: I had one more question, and that was, as you went on in this prior channeling, you said, "I have let you call me whatever you wish, for it really does not matter at this time. You are able to identify with that cultural name, but one day you will know me by my name, and when my name is mentioned, they will know whom you are speaking about." I guess I was a little confused by why "Monjoronson" is a cultural name that people would recognize, because I’ve never heard of "Monjoronson." Or were you speaking of Jesus or Christ Michael as being a cultural name that we would recognize, and why at some point, if there is a name given, why will we know you by your name and why, since you are communicating with us, and have been communicating with us on a weekly basis for quite a long time, instead of the mystery or the intrigue, why is it that at this point, we cannot clearly know who you are.

MONJORONSON: It is a matter of convenience for you here. My name "Monjoronson," in other languages, does not equate to "Monjoronson." There are cultural names for the Anointed One. I am not a "savior," though I am here to assist in the healing of your planet. It is not necessary for me to reveal my name now, as it will be known in the future. There are many billions of people on your planet who do not know me, who have no acquaintance-ship with me. We do not wish to make wrong, those people who know me by other names. It is not necessary to put them in the wrong, or to be incorrect, whether it is you or groups in other nations and cultural or language groups.

We accept the words, the title, the name that you give me now, as long as it is nominally correct and appropriate for my position, my function and my presence/power. We are not into a religionist activity at this time; we are simply encouraging people to believe that there is a higher power involved in the maintenance and management of their planet. This involves Christ Michael’s tremendous hierarchy of authority and command and management on this planet, which includes that of my activities from Paradise. Once I have revealed myself to all people, then I will reveal my name to all people, and everyone will know me by that name. The "they" that was spoken of means other people around your world, who would speak about me would use my name as well. Does this help? (Yes, thank you.)

Michael: Monjoronson, this is Michael. I have some separate questions. One is: is it correct for us to perceive that ascension is preceded by enlightenment? And is it correct to assume or to believe that anyone who is of love and light, as you are, and as Sondjah is, that you are enlightened and have ascended?

MONJORONSON: I was not born on a planet, but created in Paradise, and I am a Descending Son. I am enlightened because I understand the mechanism, the power, the authority, the central tenants of the entire universe. I do not have or possess all knowledge of all things: I am not omniscient; I am not omnipresent; I am not All Powerful. I do have the awareness of this world and all of the worlds that you will engage in, as you progress in your ascension plan to Paradise. In that degree, I am surely enlightened. Please separate your questions so I can answer them succinctly for you.

Michael: For mere mortals, is it a safe assumption or correct assumption that enlightenment would precede any opportunity for ascension?

MONJORONSON: No, it is not necessary to be enlightened to ascend. To continue your ascendant infinite career towards Paradise, your intention must be very clear about your life and your intentions for your infinite life’s career. This precedes any enlightenment. Your intentions, your actions, your endeavors, your words and thoughts are all indicative of your capacity to become enlightened. However, there are some upon your world, who have become enlightened to the degree that they have transcended mortal consciousness, to become more aware of higher consciousness and the purposes of mortality and the purposes of an infinite lifetime. These masters are enlightened to a limited degree; they still are limited in their capacity to be all knowing, all powerful and everywhere present. Through their consciousness and their connection with the Divine, they have been permitted and allowed, encouraged and taught, how to be in enlightenment of the universe. There must be these enlightened ones upon your world as beacons of radio broadcast, to tell people of what is to come, that there is hope, that there is more to life than the physical life and then death and nothing more. These enlightened ones are here to encourage individuals, to aspire, to live with intention, to come into the presence of God, the Creator in Paradise. (Thank you.)

Michael: One other question, if we have time? (Certainly.) The book, "Urantia"—forgive my lack of knowing—but what is the source of that? Or the sources of that book

MONJORONSON: The sources are many. It was authorized by Christ Michael and Uversa, the capital of Orvonton, and had its final authorization through Paradise, through Havona—the "heaven," as you would call it, the authorizing agencies there. It was a commission to reveal the greatness of your universe, a total cosmology of the universe and your world, and the Creator of this world. The sources are many: each paper within it is authored by a different individual, though some have authored more than one paper. The source is through the Offices of Christ Michael and the Offices of Uversa. These are dimensionally far greater than you can comprehend at this time, but it is "great." I think there is more to your question that has not been answered. You are encouraged to ask questions, if you wish.

Michael: Are the chapters or the papers that you are referring to, were they created as… would it be correct to see them as created through channeling or TRing?

MONJORONSON: There is great controversy among the mortal founders of "The Urantia Book," and its Foundation, but it came through a mortal who was "still," who used his mouth and his voice, his lungs to communicate what was given to him. If this is channeling, then that is what it is. If you call it by another name, then it is what you think it is, but it came through this individual and was recorded. And through a mortal commission, a forum of mortals, there was decision-making and co-creative participation, much as you engage in with Sondjah here, to discern what is appropriate to be published and what is not, and what people will understand and accept, and what they will not.

Michael: And you’re correct, there is more to the question. One more question related to this, which is: As you know, some of us are often engaged in the use of Dr. David Hawkins’ methods for determining the level of integrity or the level of awareness—or whatever, of different books and authors and spiritual teachers—basically determining truth from falsehood. Can you tell us whether or not in our earthly plane, even using tools, which appear to be as advanced as David Hawkins’ "Map of Consciousness," is it logical, possible or appropriate that we can use those kinds of tools when examining books like "Urantia," that, as you say, come from or was written by authors who are "not among us?" In other words, can we calibrate the integrity of such works, if in fact those works came from a different dimension?

MONJORONSON: Yes, you most certainly can. You are an agent of assistance to those unseen individuals, who can assist you in discerning these materials. Remember always, however, that these materials were co-creatively devised, even though they came through a trance-like individual, from unseen authors. There was participation by mortals at the time the papers were promulgated, collected, published and edited. So too, you must also hold your own energies in question, when you weigh these materials. I would not say "contamination," but the presence of unenlightened individuals doing these measurements, and these publications, makes this material suspect or taken to some degree so that it may not be 100% in the form that it was intended, or wished to be published by the commission from Uversa. Do you see my point?

Michael: Let me check that to see if I do—I think I heard you say that depending on who is doing the what we call "calibrations," or the testing, using the Hawkins instruments, they may be in a place where they have an impact personally upon how well the measurements or the interpretations or the…(Monjoronson: This is correct.) Thank you.

MONJORONSON: It is as many instruments that you have, they may not be infallible, but they are the best that you have, and so you use them until you find something better. We appreciate this process of validation, and it is held in good esteem by our technicians. (Thank you.)

Student: How would you say then—you just explained how Urantia came to be written—how would you explain how the "Course in Miracles" came to be written?

MONJORONSON: Very, very similarly. This small group is in possession of numerous documents, which have come through from unseen helpers, whether it is Melchizedeks, or Mighty Messengers, or Christ Michael himself—you have in your possession many wonderful documents that have great authority and authenticity, from their source. The material from the "Course in Miracles" has been explained very well already, and you know as we do, that the author was the one who has assisted you so many years ago here on this planet in person. (Thank you.)

Let me finally clarify the portion of anointment/anointing: I could anoint you, my friends. If you dedicated yourself whole-heartedly upon a journey that you and I agreed upon, that you were totally invested in this, and I could totally invest myself in your project of work, I have the authority to anoint you. It would truly change your life. You would become more than you were, so to speak. It would become a part of your aura; it would be a part of your ribbons of honor, so to speak, as we see upon the chests of military people. You would be recognized by our unseen friends among you, as one who is anointed. The process of anointing is the conferrence of authority, presence, power and… "presence" is perhaps the best word, the combination of "presence and energy," combined with a higher intent—perhaps even a Divine intent—for the work that you do. It may be quite humble, but it can be anointed; an individual can be anointed to do even humble things. You have seen great, wondrous writers come from the Middle Ages, the Renaissance, and in many years later, [those] who have been anointed; they have been touched by the presence of God. And so the presence of God is transferred from myself to you; it is transferred from Christ Michael, it is conferred through Gabriel; it is conferred from those who have a hand in the workings of your world and the development of light and love. This is a wonderful thing to receive, and many receive it unknowingly, and live their lives accordingly.

If you have no further questions, I will recede and let Sondjah take the stand.

Michael: May I ask one last question? (Certainly.) Is there one or more among our group, who have knowingly or unknowingly already been anointed, in the fashion you just described?

MONJORONSON: No, no one has been anointed yet. (Thank you.)

SONDJAH: This is Sondjah. As we are a very small group tonight, I would like you to continue your discussion of the materials that you were working on last week. You may not come to any conclusions, but the development of the work that you have produced last week was noted as significant and important, it is appreciated. It is measurable by us; it is measurable by your audience, and it is something that we can work with. Others, who are acquainted with your work, can also work with [it] as well, through these notes, these minutes, through the journal, and through the web site, where the expansion of these ideas and concepts, whether they are values, beliefs, expectations or criteria, are retained.

Do you have questions of myself tonight? Hearing none, I release you to your work tonight, and look forward to meeting with you again next week, with an address. Know that I will be here with you this evening. If you have questions and would like to address me, I will speak through this one again. Good night.

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